Local Elections 2024 – County Cork: Two horse race for the final ...

Fine Gael councillor Sinéad Sheppard has retained her seat in the Cobh local electoral area after she was elected on the seventh count.

Cllr Sheppard initially received 1,497 first preference votes and she was ultimately elected with 2,116 votes.

Three councillors have now been elected in the Cobh LEA after outgoing councillors Sheila O’Callaghan (FF) and Anthony Barry (FG) were elected last night. There are three seats to be filled in Cobh LEA with Ger Curley (Independent), Cllr Cathal Rasmussen (Labour Party), Dominic Finn (Fianna Fáil) and Green Party candidate Cliona O’Halloran all competing for the final three seats.

4.45pm – No candidate has been elected to Fermoy LEA on the sixth count

Deirdre O’Brien sits in poll position for the fourth seat with 2,245 votes. The quota is 2,358.

First-time candidate Nelius Cotter (FF) holds 1,607 votes while Kay Dawson (FG), Diarmuid Hanley (Labour) and Peter O’Donoghue (non-party) are all closely matched.

Derek Blighe (IF) has been eliminated from the race for the remaining three seats and his 1,158 votes will be distributed in the seventh count.

4.25pm – All outgoing councillors have been returned to Mallow LEA following the re-election of Pat Hayes (FF) on the seventh count

Hayes was elected with 1,861 votes and joins Tony O’Shea (FG), Liam Madden (FG), Eoghan Kenny (Labour) and Gearóid Murphy (FF) on the local council.

All five seats in the constituency have now been filled.

3.40pm – No candidate elected on the fifth count for Fermoy LEA.

Deirdre O’Brien (FF) is closest to the quota of 2,358 with 2,131 votes.

Joe O’Brien’s (SF) 853 votes will be distributed amongst the candidates in the sixth count. Three seats remain to be filled.

3.19pm – Gearóid Murphy wins election to Mallow LEA on the sixth count.

The Fianna Fáil councillor was re-elected to the council with 1,971 votes, which exceeded the quote of 1,958.

His party colleague Pat Hayes is expected to be re-elected to the final seat in the area.

This would mean that all outgoing councillors are re-elected to the LEA.

2.20pm – Gearóid Murphy (FF) edges closer to election in Mallow LEA

The outgoing councillor holds 1,911 votes after the fifth count and is nearing the quota of 1,958.

Pat Hayes (FF) sits on 1,659 votes, and is likely to secure one of the constituency’s remaining two seats alongside Murphy.

2.14pm Fine Gael candidate Noel O’Donovan elected to Skibbereen-West Cork LEA Fine Gael candidate Noel O’Donovan has been elected to Skibbereen-West Cork local electoral area on the fourth count.

Mr O’Donovan exceeded the quota after he secured enough votes from the distribution of outgoing councillor Karen Coakley’s votes.

The newly elected councillor ran a great electoral campaign, and he garnered 2,445 first preference votes. He ultimately secured an overall vote of 2,539 and exceeded the quota of 2,531.

Noel O’Donovan is the first councillor elected in the Skibbereen-West Cork LEA.

There are several candidates still vying for the remaining four seats.

They include sitting councillor Joe Carroll (Fianna Fáil), Isobel Towse (Social Democrats), Brendan McCarthy (Fine Gael), sitting councillor Deirdre Kelly (Fianna Fáil), Independent Ireland candidate Daniel Sexton, Fianna Fáil candidate Padraig O’Reilly and sitting councillor Declan Hurley (Independent).

2.04pm – The Mayor of the County of Cork, Frank O’Flynn (FF), has been re-elected to Fermoy LEA on the fourth count.

Following the announcement of his election, Cllr O’Flynn was hoisted into the air and shouted “come on the harbour!”.

The Mayor said he was “delighted, overcome” to be elected to the third seat in Fermoy.

Outgoing councillor Frank Roche (non-party) has been eliminated from the race for the three remaining seats in the constituency.

1.40pm – Kanturk becomes the first LEA filled in County Cork.

Ian Doyle (FF) was re-elected on the eighth count with 1,855 votes, edging Becky Kealy (Aontú) by 61 votes.

Doyle joins Bernard Moynihan (FF), John Paul O’Shea (FG), Trish Murphy (FG) on the LEA for the next five years.

1.38pm – Eileen Lynch (FG) has been re-elected to Macroom LEA on the third count.

12.33pm – The eighth count for Kanturk LEA will see the fourth and final candidate elected to the constituency.

Ian Doyle (FF) is in poll position to be re-elected, as he currently holds 1,705 votes while his competitor Becky Kealy (Aontú) is on 1,485.

The 812 votes of Sinn Féin’s Evelyn O’Keeffe will be distributed amongst the two candidates in the eighth count.

12.23pm – Independent Ireland councillor Danny Collins re-elected to Cork County Council

Independent Ireland councillor Danny Collins has been re-elected to Cork County Council after the third count in the Bantry-West Cork LEA.

Cllr Collins received a first preference vote of 2,386 and the former Mayor of the County of Cork will now forward to County Hall for another term.

Three councillors have been eliminated so far in the Bantry-West Cork LEA. Aontú candidate Patrick Murphy, Green Party candidate Liz Coakley Wakefield and Fine Gael candidate Mary Lou Maguire Leahy have all been eliminated.

There are four seats to be filled in the Bantry-West Cork LEA.

Independent candidate Finbarr Harrington, sitting Fine Gael councillor Caroline Cronin, sitting Fianna Fáil councillor Patrick Gerard Murphy.

Independent candidate Helen O’Sullivan, Fianna Fáil candidate Danny Crowley and sitting Social Democrats councillor Chris Heinhold are all competing for the final three seats in the Bnatry-West Cork LEA.

12.15pm – Anti-immigration candidate Derek Blighe (Ireland First) is still in the race for election to Fermoy LEA, with 951 votes after the third count.

Two candidates have been elected to seats in the area and nine remain in the race for the remaining four.

County Mayor Frank O’Flynn (2,333 votes) is most likely to elected next, sitting just 25 votes off the quota.

11:40am – The third count for Mallow LEA has not seen any candidate gather enough votes to be elected to either of the two remaining seats.

11.31am – Ian Doyle (FF) and Becky Kealy (Aontú) vying for the final seat in Kanturk, but neither collected enough votes to be elected on the sixth count.

11.12am – No candidate has been elected to Carrigaline LEA after the third count.

10.54am – No candidate elected to Macroom LEA on the second count.

on 10.10am – Day two of counting set to get underway in Mallow Youth Centre.

So far, Bernard Moynihan (FF), John Paul O’Shea (FG) and Trish Murphy (FG) have been elected to Kanturk LEA. Ian Doyle (FF) and Becky Kealy (Aontú) are set to fight it out for the constituency’s final seat.

In Mallow, Tony O’Shea (FG), Liam Madden (FG) and Eoghan Kenny (Lab) have been elected. Gearóid Murphy (FF), Pat Hayes (FF) and Melissa O’Brien (SF) are challenging for the final two seats.

William O’Brien (Non-Party) and Noel McCarthy (FG) were elected to Fermoy LEA. Mayor of County Cork, Frank O’Flynn (FF), looks likely to be elected next. Several candidates running in the area could challenge for the remaining three seats.

3.09am: No candidate elected after the first count in the Skibbereen-West Cork LEA

Two candidates were eliminated: Lorraine Deane (Aontú) and Rory Jackson (Green Party)

Joe Carroll (FF) 1,783Karen Coakley (Ind) 555Lorraine Deane (Aontú) 187Humphrey Deegan (Ind) 853Declan Hurley (Ind) 1,045Deirdre Kelly (FF) 1,344Rory Jackson (Green Party) 214Brendan McCarthy (FG) 1,384Evie Nevin (Labour) 450Noel O’Donovan (FG) 2,445Barry O’Mahony (Ind) 647Padraig O’Reilly (FF) 1,199Donnchadh Ó Seaghdha (SF) 552Daniel Sexton (Ind Ireland) 1,277Isobel Towse (Soc Dems) 1,249

Total electorate: 15,299

Total poll: 15,299

Invalid ballot papers: 115

Valid poll: 15,184

Quota: 2,531

3.08am – Two candidates elected to the Bandon-Kinsale LEA after the first count: Alan Coleman (Independent) and John Collins (Independent Ireland)

Alan Coleman’s surplus of 132 votes will now be distributed.

Ann Bambury (Soc Dems) 1,800Alan Coleman (Ind) 2,511John Collins (Independent Ireland) 2,380Gillian Coughlan (FF) 1,726John Michael Foley (FG) 2,194Margaret Murphy O’Mahony (FF) 983Clare O’Callaghan (SF) 443Sean O’Donovan (FF) 1,118Marie O’Sullivan (FG) 1,598Brendan Piper (Ind) 488Gerard Seaman (FG) 988Stephen Spillane (Green Party) 272

Total electorate: 31,002

Total poll: 16,748

Invalid ballot papers: 102

Valid poll: 16,646

Quota: 2,379

2.24am Two candidates elected after the first count in Midleton LEA

Midleton LEA

ELECTED: Mary Lenihan Foley (Independent) and Michael Hegarty (FG)

Edith Adams (SF) 715Ann Marie Ahern (FF) 1,053John Buckley (Ind) 862Seán Buckley (Ind) 654Paddy Bullman (Ireland First) 368Rory Cocking (FG) 1,400Alison Curtin (FG) 803Clodagh Harrington (Green Party) 387Michael Hegarty (FG) 2,116Eileen Kelly McCarthy (Ind Ireland) 595Mary Lenihan Foley (Ind) 2,962Patrick Mulcahy (FF) 1,629Michelle Neville (Ind) 147James Peter O’Sullivan (The Irish People) 211Liam Quaide (Soc Dems) 1,606Mona Stromsoe (Aontú) 692

Total Electorate: 36,345 Total Poll: 16,357 Invalid Ballot Papers: 157 Valid Poll: 16,200 Quota: 2,026 Number of Seats: 7

1.45am No candidate elected after the first count in Bantry-West Cork LEA.

The count for this area has been adjourned for the night.

Bantry-West Cork

No candidate elected after the first count:

Liz Coakley Wakefield (Green Party): 294Danny Collins (Independent Ireland): 2,386Caroline Cronin (FG): 1,696Danny Crowley (FF): 1,245Finbarr Harrington (Ind): 1,870Chris Heinhold (Soc Dems): 994Mary Lou Maguire Leahy (FG): 562Patrick Murphy (Aontú): 289Patrick Gerard Murphy (FF): 1,361Colum O’Callaghan (SF): 258Helen O’Sullivan (Ind): 1,340

Total Poll: 12,396 Spoiled: 101 Valid Poll: 12,295 Quota: 2,460 Seats: 4

1.40pm – Trish Murphy (FG) has won the third seat in the Kanturk LEA following the fourth count.

1.27am – Jack White (FG) has been elected to the Carrigaline LEA after the second count.

1.06am – No candidate has been elected after the third count for Mallow LEA. The count for this electoral area has been adjourned for the night.

1am – The third count for the Fermoy LEA is currently underway at Mallow Youth Centre.

12.59am – No candidate elected after the Kanturk LEA third count.

12.25am – Two candidates secure re-election in Fermoy on first count

William O’Leary, an Independent candidate who resigned from Fianna Fáil earlier this year, topped the poll in Fermoy with 2,920 votes.

Fine Gael’s Noel McCarthy was also elected, with 2,624 votes.

12.15am Two councillors elected from Cobh LEA

Cork County Council: Cobh First Count

ELECTED: Sheila O’Callaghan (FF) and Anthony Barry (FG)

Cobh First Count results:

Rola Abu Zeid O’Neill (People Before Profit): 492Anthony Barry (FG) 1,935Ger Curley (Independent Ireland) 1,293Dominic Finn (FF) 940Peter Kidney (Independent) 357Keith Kelly (FG) 645Medhi Ozcinar (SF) 620Diarmuid O Cadhla (Glór Voice of the People) 559Sheila O’Callaghan (FF) 2,202Cliona O’Halloran (Green Party) 834Cathal Rasmussen (Labour Party) 1,541Sinead Sheppard (FG) 1,497

Poll: 28,604 Rejected: 106 Valid Poll: 13,021 Seats: 6 Quota: 1,846

11.43pm – Two seats filled in Macroom after first count.

Fianna Fáil’s Gobnait Moynihan has won re-election to Macroom LEA with a poll-topping 2,794 votes.

Veteran campaigner Michael Creed (FG) also secured a seat on the first count, after he collected 2,593 first preferences.

11.07pm – John Paul O’Shea has secured the second seat in Kanturk LEA.

Fine Gael’s John Paul O’Shea has been re-elected after he received 171 surplus votes in the second count. These votes gave him a total of 2,356 votes.

His election comes shortly after it was announced his brother Tony topped the polls in the Mallow LEA.

In the second count of Kanturk LEA, Trish Murphy (FG) received 195 votes to give her a total of 2,037, while Ian Doyle (FF) collected an additional 196 to give him a total of 1,396 votes. They are the candidates now most likely to fill the remaining two seats in the constituency, which has a quota of 2,284.

10.35pm – Two Fine Gael representatives and a Labour Party candidate have been re-elected to Mallow LEA.

Tony O’Shea (FG) topped the polls with 2,615 votes and his party colleague Liam Madden received 2,571 first-preferences.

Labour’s first-time candidate Eoghan Kenny, who was co-opted on to the local council earlier this year, collected 2,239 votes.

Each candidate’s surplus will be divided amongst the remaining seven candidates in the race for the final two seats in the constituency.

Fianna Fáil candidates Gearóid Murphy (1,329 votes) and Pat Hayes (1,076 votes) are the candidates with the next most first-preference votes.

10.30pm – Bantry-West Cork LEA, Bandon-Kinsale LEA and Skibbereen-West Cork first count results are expected to be announced around midnight.

We are still waiting for the results from the first count to be announced at the election centre in Clonakilty in County Cork.

There is growing speculation that the results from the first count in the three local electoral areas will be announced in the Bantry-West Cork, Bandon-Kinsale and Skibbereen-West Cork around midnight.

According to the early tallies Cllr Danny Collins (Independent Ireland) and younger brother of Independent Ireland party leader Michael Collins will top the poll in Bantry-West Cork.

The tallies also indicate that sitting Independent councillor Alan Coleman will top the poll in Bandon-Kinsale and Noel O’Donovan (Fine Gael) will top the poll in Skibbereen-West Cork.

9.49pm – Mallow LEA first count results are expected to be announced within the next 10 minutes.

9.20pm – Fianna Fáil’s Bernard Moynihan has been elected to Kanturk LEA on the first count.

The Duhallow representative received 3,030 votes and his surplus of 746 will be distributed amongst the remaining nine candidates in the second count.

Other high pollers were Fine Gael’s John Paul O’Shea, with 2,185 votes, and his party colleague Trish Murphy, who collected 2,037 votes.

7.40pm – Independent Ireland party leader hopeful his party will win a number of seats

Independent Ireland party leader Michael Collins TD is hopeful his party can win a number of seats on Cork County Council.

Speaking to The Corkman as he arrived at the count centre in Clonakilty on Saturday evening, Mr Collins declared himself very ‘happy’. “It is early stages yet. We are happy at the moment. Obviously, there is a lot to be played out yet. Tomorrow is a big day. For now, I am extremely happy. Four candidates are going to get elected tonight, two are from Independent Ireland. That is a great start. In Europe it also looks very good for us, but it is very early stages,” he said.

Two brothers of the Independent Ireland party leader appear poised to top the polls in the Bantry-West Cork (Danny) and Bandon-Kinsale (John) local electoral areas respectively. Independent Ireland candidate Daniel Sexton is also in with a good chance of winning a seat in the Skibbereen-West Cork LEA after polling well.

Deputy Collins is hopeful his party can win three seats. “It looks very good for Danny in the Bantry electoral area and John in the Bandon electoral area. They both have exceeded a quota as it looks from the early tallies.

“I was hearing this on the doors. I was getting a very positive response. We are in a very serious chance of taking a third seat in the Clonakilty area. We will know more tomorrow,” he added.

6.23pm – Final tallies in Midleton and Cobh local electoral areas

The final tallies have been completed in both Midleton and Cobh local electoral areas.

Sitting Fianna Fáil councillor Sheila O’Callaghan recorded the highest vote in Cobh as she secured 17% of the vote.

Fine Gael councillor Anthony Barry seems certain to retain his seat after he secured 15% of the vote.

Sitting councillors Cathal Rasmussen (Labour Party) and Sinead Sheppard (Fine Gael) look well poised to retain their seats after they secured 12% of the vote respectively.

Independent Ireland candidate Ger Curley has polled very well. Mr Curley secured 10% of the vote.

Fianna Fáil candidate Dominic Finn has polled well as he garnered 7% of the vote, while Green Party candidate Cliona O’Halloran is on 6%.

Sinn Féin candidate Medhi Ozcinar and Fine Gael candidate Keith Kelly are both locked on 5% of the vote.

Rola Abu Zeid O’Neill the People Before Profit candidate and Glór Voice of the People candidate Diarmaid Ó Cadhla are both on 4%, while Independent candidate Peter Kidney is on 3%.

Overall there are 12 candidates competing for six seats in the Cobh LEA.

In the Midleton LEA sitting Independent candidate Mary Lenihan Foley secured the most votes after she garnered 2663 first preference votes.

Sitting Fine Gael councillor Michael Hegarty polled an impressive 1852 votes, while Fianna Fáil councillor Patrick Mulcahy who is contesting his first elected secured 1503 votes.

Sitting Social Democrats councillor Liam Quaide appears well poised to retain his seat after he secured 1338 first preference votes.

Fine Gael candidate Rory Cocking is well poised to win a seat for his party after he received 1121 votes. Sitting councillor Ann Marie Ahern will be hopeful of retaining her seat after she secured 840 votes.

Fine Gael candidate Alision Curtin secured 683 first preference votes, while Independent candidate John Buckley and Sinn Féin candidate Edith Adams garnered 663 and 610 votes respectively.

Independent candidate Mona Stromose got 582 votes, while Eileen Kelly McCarthy (Independent Ireland) got 556 votes.

Independent candidate Sean Buckley garnered 499 votes, Green Party candidate Clodagh Harrington got 329 votes, Independent candidate James

Peter O’Sullivan received 182 votes and Independent candidate Michelle Neville got 125 votes.

There are 16 candidates competing for seven seats in the Midleton LEA.

6.12pm – Fianna Fáil’s Bernard Moynihan was greeted with applause as he arrived into Mallow Youth Centre.

The Duhallow representative is expected to be re-elected as a Kanturk councillor when the first count takes place soon.

Tallies showed that Moynihan received 2,999 votes, which is 26pc of the vote in the four-seat constituency.

Moynihan said that he was “delighted” and “surprised” with how many votes he received.

5.37pm – The count is well underway in Mallow Youth Centre, with the results of the first count expected in an hour.

5.25pm – Social Democrats party leader Holly Cairns has just arrived at the count centre in Clonakilty.

The Social Democrats are running three candidates in the three local electoral areas in Bantry-West Cork, Bandon-Kinsale and Skibbereen-West Cork. The party are in contention to win seats in all the municipal districts going by the early tallies.

Ann Bambury who is running in the Bandon LEA has polled very well and will be hopeful of winning a seat.

Sitting councillor Chris Heinhold is running in the Bantry LEA and will be competing hard to retain his seat.

There are only four seats up for grabs in this MD and Independent candidates are also polling well. Transfers ultimately will prove crucial in determining who will win the seats.

Isobel Towse who is running in the Skibbereen-West Cork LEA has also polled well according to the early tallies and she will be competing hard for the final seat in this MD. There are 15 candidates competing for five seats in Skibbereen-West Cork.

Voting for the three local electoral areas has yet to commence at the count centre in Clonakilty.

4.05pm – Counting has begun in Mallow Youth Centre

3:58pm – Macroom and Carrigaline Tallies

Macroom LEA

Tallies show that all six outgoing councillors in the area could be re-elected.

Gobnait Moynihan (FF) hold 16pc of the vote in the LEA while her party colleague Michael Looney has 14pc.

Michael Creed sits on 15pc and his Fine Gael colleague Eileen Lynch has 13pc. Ted Lucey, also Fine Gael, holds 12pc of the vote.

Martin Coughlan (Ind) has 8pc of the vote.

Of the four candidates hoping to challenge the status quo, Dermot Kelleher (Independent Ireland) looks to hold the most votes at 7pc.

Carrigaline LEA

Fianna Fáil’s Seamus McGrath looks to be running away with the electoral area, with tallies showing that he holds 36pc of the vote.

Ben Dalton-O’Sullivan holds 20pc of the vote while Fine Gael’s Jack White has 12pc.

3.46pm – Count at Mallow Youth Centre is still awaiting boxes to arrive from the local GAA club.

3.40pm – Mallow, Kanturk, Fermoy

Mallow LEA

Fine Gael’s two outgoing councillors are looking likely to be re-elected in Mallow

Fine Gael’s Tony O’Shea and Liam Madden each hold 22pc of the vote in the LEA, according to tallies.

The Labour Party’s Eoghan Kenny sits on 19pc and Gearóid Murphy of Fianna Fáil has 11pc.

Pat Hayes (FF) could secure the fifth seat in the constituency with the 9pc he currently holds.

Kanturk LEA

Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael are looking set to retain their grip on Kanturk.

Tallies show that Duhallow stalwart Bernard Moynihan (FF) currently holds 26pc of the vote in the four-seat constituency.

John Paul O’Shea (FG) has 19pc and Trish Murphy (FG) sits on 18pc.

Charleville’s Ian Doyle (FF) holds 10pc.

The count at Mallow Youth Centre is due to begin around 4pm.

Fermoy LEA

Outgoing independent William O’Leary leads in Fermoy.

The former Fianna Fáil councillor holds 18pc of the vote in the LEA according to tallies.

Noel McCarthy (FG) has 16pc of the vote while Frank O’Flynn (FF) is sitting on 13pc.

Fianna Fáil’s Deirdre O’Brien has accumulated 11pc of the vote and her party colleague Nelius Cotter has 7pc.

With five candidates sitting on between 5pc and 6pc, there could be a battle for this area’s sixth seat.

3.23pm – Bantry-West Cork, Bandon-Kinsale, Skibbereen-West Cork

Bantry-West Cork LEA

Early tallies are showing Cllr Danny Collins is well poised to retain his seat.

Cllr Collins who is a member of Independent Ireland topped the poll in the 2019 local elections and early tallies are indicating that Cllr Collins has attracted a very strong vote once again.

Sitting Fine Gael councillor Caroline Cronin is also doing well according to the early tallies. She is expected to retain her seat.

Sitting Fianna Fáil councillor Patrick Gerard Murphy is also doing well in the early stages and is expected to retain his seat.

His running mate Danny Crowley will be in a battle to secure a second seat for the party.

Two Independent candidates Finbarr Harrington and Helen O’Sullivan have performed well according to the early tallies and will be in contention for a seat.

Mr Harrington was very unlucky in the last election as he narrowly lost out to the current leader of the Social Democrats Holly Cairns for the last seat in the MD. Overall there are 11 candidates battling for four seats in this municipal district.

Skibbereen-West Cork LEA The early tallies are showing sitting Fianna Fáil councillor Joe Carroll has performed very well. Cllr Carroll has received a very strong vote and seems well poised to retain his seat.

Fine Gael councillors Noel O’Donovan and Brendan McCarthy are both nicely poised to secure seats for the party. Mr O’Donovan and Mr McCarthy have polled very strongly across the MD.

Sitting Fianna Fáil councillor Deirdre Kelly has also performed well and will be hopeful of retaining her seat. Independent Ireland candidate Daniel Sexton has also performed well and will be hoping transfers will propel him to County Hall. Sitting councillor Declan Hurley (Independent) will also be in contention for a seat. Again these are very early tallies and come with the health warning that there are a lot of boxes throughout the MD to be opened. There are 15 candidates competing for five seats.

Bandon-Kinsale LEA In this municipal district John Collins a brother of Michael and Danny is polling very well according to the early tallies.

They indicate the Independent Ireland candidate is well placed to win a seat.

Long serving Independent candidate Alan Coleman is also polling strongly and is tipped to retain his seat.

Fine Gael candidate John Michael Foley is also polling well and he will be hopeful of securing a seat on Cork County Council.

There are a lot of Bandon candidates in this election and transfers as always will be key in deciding the ultimate shape of the LEA. There are 12 candidates vying for six seats in this LEA.

2:15 p.m. – Kanturk LEA

Tallies show that three of the four outgoing councillors in Kanturk could be re-elected.

Local stalwart Bernard Moynihan (FF) holds 26% of the vote and looks more than likely to be the first elected to the four-seat constituency.

John Paul O’Shea (FG) sits on 19% of the vote and Fianna Fáil’s Ian Doyle holds 10% of the vote.

Trish Murphy (FG), who is vying for the council seat left vacant by the death of her father Gerard Murphy, has 18%.